Psychology
English
Question: The question has to do with mental illness, and it is to do with some of the people who have it, who hear voices in their minds. Can they differentiate the voices that their illness is creating?
MACHIVENTA: This is a very good and puzzling question that you ask. It is germane to the acceptance of channeling, as well as hallucinations. There are auditory hallucinations, as you know. People who suffer from schizophrenia and psychosis oftentimes have auditory hallucinations. They hear voices directing them to do “this” and to do “that.” Almost always, when you hear of mental illness and auditory hallucinations, there is evil afoot; that there are difficulties in that there is turbulence and aggression and even violence, involved in the direction of that secondary voice. Yet, when an individual hears the voice of God, hears their Guardian Angel, and so on, that oftentimes is considered a mental illness as well, strictly by clinicians. It is important to differentiate between voices that are benign and good, and voices that are malign and bad. It is important to understand and discern the difference.
When saints have heard the voice of God in their lives as mystics, they do “good” and they live well, and so this is one of the discerning factors of hearing voices. You could say, and others have said that This One is mentally ill because he channels; he hears voices, and that he speaks that to others and so he makes other people conflicted. But, the honesty and validity and truthfulness of what is said must also be discerned. It is an aspect of discerning. Mental health is an aspect of discerning. Indigenous cultures in the past—and even contemporarily in remote areas—continue to see individuals and accept individuals who hallucinate as shamans, as capable of connecting with other alternative realities. Does this make the individual, the shaman, mentally ill?
So, you begin to see that the aspect of mental illness of auditory hallucinations and of channeling is culturally relevant. It is relevant to different cultures and ethnic groups. What is a mental health problem in one group is actually a “gift” in other groups. A dominant culture has an aspect of how society reacts to individuals with mental health problems. If a person who hallucinates and hears voices is able to maintain a nominal lifestyle that is constructive and self-supporting, then what harm does it do? This One knows of a grocery clerk at the local major grocery chain, who will speak to himself while he is checking out people at the check-stand. He is not violent, he is not hostile, he is not unkind; but he is simply processing the events of checking out groceries for individuals who are there in front of him. It is quite striking and odd to begin with, but after a while one feels a kinship to this individual as he struggles to work through even the simple aspects of differentiating the code numbers for pineapple as opposed to cherries. Thus, mental health is culturally relevant. It is also relevant to situations. Those individuals who are violent, and who hear voices that causes them to be violent and hurt others truly are in need of treatment—a treatment that protects themselves from themselves, and protects others from them as well.
Your question is quite broad in nature when you begin to analyze and discuss the nature of auditory hallucinations, of hearing voices within. All of the great saints throughout their lives, when they achieve that status, hear voices. They have heard the voice of God, they have heard the voice of Melchizedeks, and so on. Jesus himself heard voices—the voice of God—and he discussed openly with his adversaries, the Planetary [Prince], Caligastia at that time, and so on, as they related to each other and as they struggled to take control of the planet. Of course, as you know, Christ Michael as Jesus was wholly successful, and that began the Era of the Correcting Time now. Voices have been heard throughout the history of sentient beings on this planet. You cannot doubt that when Thought Adjusters came to this planet to advanced individuals first, that they began to have an awareness of greater consciousness in the universe, and shared that with others, and went inside to commune with that Source, because that source was good, had good advice and was authentic and good to all people for higher purposes of mental, emotional and spiritual growth.
MACHIVENTA: This is a very good and puzzling question that you ask. It is germane to the acceptance of channeling, as well as hallucinations. There are auditory hallucinations, as you know. People who suffer from schizophrenia and psychosis oftentimes have auditory hallucinations. They hear voices directing them to do “this” and to do “that.” Almost always, when you hear of mental illness and auditory hallucinations, there is evil afoot; that there are difficulties in that there is turbulence and aggression and even violence, involved in the direction of that secondary voice. Yet, when an individual hears the voice of God, hears their Guardian Angel, and so on, that oftentimes is considered a mental illness as well, strictly by clinicians. It is important to differentiate between voices that are benign and good, and voices that are malign and bad. It is important to understand and discern the difference.
When saints have heard the voice of God in their lives as mystics, they do “good” and they live well, and so this is one of the discerning factors of hearing voices. You could say, and others have said that This One is mentally ill because he channels; he hears voices, and that he speaks that to others and so he makes other people conflicted. But, the honesty and validity and truthfulness of what is said must also be discerned. It is an aspect of discerning. Mental health is an aspect of discerning. Indigenous cultures in the past—and even contemporarily in remote areas—continue to see individuals and accept individuals who hallucinate as shamans, as capable of connecting with other alternative realities. Does this make the individual, the shaman, mentally ill?
So, you begin to see that the aspect of mental illness of auditory hallucinations and of channeling is culturally relevant. It is relevant to different cultures and ethnic groups. What is a mental health problem in one group is actually a “gift” in other groups. A dominant culture has an aspect of how society reacts to individuals with mental health problems. If a person who hallucinates and hears voices is able to maintain a nominal lifestyle that is constructive and self-supporting, then what harm does it do? This One knows of a grocery clerk at the local major grocery chain, who will speak to himself while he is checking out people at the check-stand. He is not violent, he is not hostile, he is not unkind; but he is simply processing the events of checking out groceries for individuals who are there in front of him. It is quite striking and odd to begin with, but after a while one feels a kinship to this individual as he struggles to work through even the simple aspects of differentiating the code numbers for pineapple as opposed to cherries. Thus, mental health is culturally relevant. It is also relevant to situations. Those individuals who are violent, and who hear voices that causes them to be violent and hurt others truly are in need of treatment—a treatment that protects themselves from themselves, and protects others from them as well.
Your question is quite broad in nature when you begin to analyze and discuss the nature of auditory hallucinations, of hearing voices within. All of the great saints throughout their lives, when they achieve that status, hear voices. They have heard the voice of God, they have heard the voice of Melchizedeks, and so on. Jesus himself heard voices—the voice of God—and he discussed openly with his adversaries, the Planetary [Prince], Caligastia at that time, and so on, as they related to each other and as they struggled to take control of the planet. Of course, as you know, Christ Michael as Jesus was wholly successful, and that began the Era of the Correcting Time now. Voices have been heard throughout the history of sentient beings on this planet. You cannot doubt that when Thought Adjusters came to this planet to advanced individuals first, that they began to have an awareness of greater consciousness in the universe, and shared that with others, and went inside to commune with that Source, because that source was good, had good advice and was authentic and good to all people for higher purposes of mental, emotional and spiritual growth.